Musical Experiment: The Rolling Stones

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Thoughts on The Rolling Stones “Let it Bleed”:

Taylor: well it was wayy wayy different than i thought it was gonna be. some of it was really bluesy/bluegrassy.. and i did not expect that. I thought forsure it’d be just good ole rocknroll. And while i do greatly enjoy some bluegrass, they definitely succeeded more when they just played rock. also, the two tracks that i ended up enjoying the most were the ones that are the most well known. That “You can’t always get what you want” choir that opens up the track…. amazing. that’s a very good song. As for “gimme shelter”, I find this track oddly out of place on this album. It is an excellent song, but I think i might enjoy the album more had the other songs fallen in line with this one. what about you?

Jacob: Yeah, you’re right, a lot of bluesy countrified tracks on this record. I was definitely expecting more of the “rock your face off” feel of “Gimme Shelter”. Speaking of which, I’ve come to see this song as one of the best rock ‘n roll songs of all time. Seriously could anyone today get away with screaming “Rape! Murder! Its just a shot away…” nobody could, at least not in a popular forum, with the tone in their voices. It’s a great protest song.

As far as the rest of the album, you’re right “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” is great, as well as the title track “Let it Bleed”. The whole thing did grow on me, but I think more songs in the vein of “Gimme Shelter” would have made me more interested in it. Though I guess they have plenty of albums that will take care of that in the future…

Taylor: was this the first album that they made?
also interesting about the thought of protest song. i feel as though it may be a lost art… and that song really does an excellent job with it.
Again, i don’t even have a problem with the bluesyness off it all. I just think theyre more talented in the rock genre (which i’m sure they realize)

Jacob: I think that this was a couple albums into their discography, but I’m not sure how many (NOTE: Wikipedia lists this as their 8th British studio album). I don’t have a problem with the bluesyness either, except for the fact that I find it kind of bland and really not that engaging. Maybe I’ve just heard stuff that their predecessors and followers have done to make it better. To hear the epic “Gimme Shelter” be followed by a song called “Country Honk” two tracks later just feels really lame to me.

Taylor: I think i totally agree with you.

I’ll just end by saying that i come out of this with higher regards for the rollings stones than i went into it with.

Taylor’s favorite tracks: “Gimme Shelter”, “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”

Taylor’s rating: 3.5/5

Jacob’s favorite tracks: “Gimme Shetler”, “Let it Bleed”, “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”

Jacob’s rating: 2.5/5

Listen to “Gimme Shelter”

Next time we continue through the 60’s…

Musical Experiment: Ornette Coleman

 

 

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Jacob:

Here are my thoughts on Ornette Coleman:
The Shape of Jazz to Come seems to alternate between jazz songs that I really enjoy and ones that I find annoying. The opening sax crooning with rapid percussion in the background is one that gets stuck in my head, particularly on repeated listens.
On “Eventually” however, the melody that he once had is depleted by a rapid screeching that is done at a pace I could not get into at all. It may be experimental is some sense, but it is something I did not find compelling at all.

On “Peace” he changes his tune (literally) and slows it down letting the bass drive the background. At 9 minutes I think it’s the best song on the album and allows for wonderful saxophone melodies with a little bit of that rapid screeching that he seems to experiment with. It works better here, because of the length of the track.

Overall, the album really does alternate track by track with songs I like and those I don’t, it’s strange.

Taylor:

i find that i mostly agree with what you’ve said about the album. The album seems as though ornette first had all bass and drums and such recorded and then just literally went through the whole album and improvised with all of the saxophone playing. Which would be quite the cool feat. Yet still, much of it seems very random and obnoxious. I found myself enjoying it much more when the bass line wandered by itself as you mentioned in the song “peace” as well as on “focus on sanity”.

It definitely wasn’t my favorite jazz album to listen to. It was almost a struggle sometimes to even get through. I also found the name of the album very interesting. This guy was either really confident that his music would be influential, or just cocky (maybe both). Although (i’m assuming that) it ended up being fairly influential, so more power to him.

 Jacob:

Yes I believe it was quite an influential album (that’s why it showed up on lists and, well, why we’re even discussing it). Actually, there was a punk/hardcore band in the 90’s called The Refused that riffed on this album’s title and called theirs “The Shape of Punk to Come” which ended up being quite influential too.

I really do like “Peace” though and would listen to it just for fun.

Also, apparently (according to Wikipedia) this laid a lot of the ground work for free jazz and avant-garde jazz that would come later, because it did not use any instruments with chords and also features a few minutes of improvisation in each track. So I guess you were on the right track with that one.

Taylor:

yeah i try to avoid looking at the wikipedia page. that way my views aren’t slanted. that’s pretty funny though. Basically all you have to do to influence a genre is to name it: “the shape of (insert genre here) to come”.

Favorite tracks:

Jacob: “Peace”, “Lonely Woman”

Taylor: “Sanity”, “Peace”

Listen to “Peace” by Ornette Coleman:

Coming next we enter the ’60’s with Rolling Stones’ “Let it Bleed”